Monday, October 06, 2008

Gary, Indiana - One Vote Over the Line for Obama Campaign - UPDATE - Las Vegas!

We should consider this a warning, there will be election problems in Lake County, Indiana. Laura Washington, the Sun Times columnist, De Paul prof and former In These Times editor wrote another of her election roundups and as usual it is informative, especially the section concerning Gary, Indiana. That is Gary of Lake County, Indiana, the same Lake County that is having such big problems with fraudulent voter registrations and the same Lake County that Flying Debris commented on here just two days ago:

Barack Obama's former employer, ACORN (where he was a "community organizer") has just turned in thousands of fraudulent voter registrations in Lake County, Indiana. This follows reports from the primary that Chicagoans were attempting to vote in Lake County and that people were bused in from elsewhere, that students were taken out of school and bused to polling places. A documentary concerning fraud in this year's Democratic Caucuses even examined polling in Lake County, among other things they found gang intimidation (starting at 4:00 minutes) in Lake County. The first linked article mentions that telephone lines at the ACORN offices in Gary, Milwaukee and Chicago were reported to be disconnected, here is what I found: the Gary office has an anonymous recorded message voice mail that appears to be from their telephone service company, the Milwaukee line has been disconnected and the Chicago line appears to be up but the nested menu often reconnects to itself. This is more of the hopeful Chicago politics that the Obama campaign is bringing to America, this is Democratic "reform."

Washington's Sun Times column covers a number of issues but here are the relevant paragraphs (emphasis mine):

On Nov. 4, Gary, Ind., could end up as ground zero of the political universe. Indiana was the firewall state in the 2008 Democratic primary season. Hillary Clinton won that battle, but lost the war.

Rudy Clay, the flamboyant and pertinacious Gary mayor, was the star of that drama. Although Clinton prevailed in the May 6 primary, the returns from Clay's stomping grounds came in so late that Clinton was denied a victory speech in prime time. Clinton supporters accused Clay of sabotaging the counting.

Clay claims the process was slowed by a deluge of early-voting ballots. "We were not doing that on purpose," he told me the other day. "It just looked that way." I could almost see his grin over the phone.

Once again Indiana is hotly contested territory, and Gary could be pivotal.

"No Democrat has ever won the state of Indiana without winning Gary. We are not going to break precedent now," Clay proclaimed.

His voters will bring it in for Obama because they know how to count, Clay added.

"We are spending $10 [billion] to $12 billion a month in Iraq, and in Gary we can't get $12 to fix a pothole."

State Sen. Earline Rogers, a lead coordinator of the get-out-the vote effort, is also counting -- and confident. The Gary native has served in the Indiana legislature for 26 years.

"We are trying to be extremely careful," she said, "because the rest of the state looks at us as sort of the 'Cook County of Indiana.' " (Senator, nice try, but don't even think about snatching that esteemed title away from us.)

Obama lost the Indiana primary by about 14,000 votes. Rogers calculates that 19,000 registered Gary voters did not show up at the polls in May. "We can make up that difference," she said.

We should all be worried about vote fraud in Gary and elsewhere in Lake County, Indiana. This is the new kind of politics? This is the change we've been waiting for? These are the people we've been waiting for?

UPDATE: The ACORN office in Las Vegas has been raided by Nevada State officials today! The Gateway Pundit has the story!

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9 Comments:

Blogger nrn312 said...

Obama's going to win with at least 350 electoral votes, so Indiana is the least of your problems. The market is trying to tell you something.

http://www.intrade.com/

11:16 AM  
Blogger El Rider said...

"Obama's going to win with at least 350 electoral votes, so Indiana is the least of your problems. " 350 electoral votes? Please, put down the bong and go to work. And as to Indiana being the least of anybody's problem - you have written that vote fraud is not a problem because your glorious leader will win anyway. You have written that you have no problem with the act of stealing and that you have no problem putting an illegitimate candidate into office, you madam or sir are a fascist.

As to Intrade, can you even read? The top of this blog states that I am a professional trader you boob, I have made bets on Intrade in the past. If you were able to understand what Intrade is you would realize that it is a system that is easy to manipulate, the Intrade market had John Kerry as winning going away four years ago and last I checked Kerry is still a loser from Ma. Just this year the Intrade market showed Ron Paul as running away with the Republican nomination, he got somewhere in the area of 40 delegates.

To put it simply (for nrn312 not for most readers), Intrade is easy and relatively inexpensive to game and political types have been doing exactly that so that other stupid people can crow about how well their candidate is doing and how everybody should jump on their bandwagan because "look, even the MARKETS say that Barack will win!" Last Sunday was a good lesson in the problem with gambling "markets" as opposed to delivery markets - the Bears were 3/12 point dogs to the Lions and they won by 27.

Intrade exists so that astute people can take money from people like you.

12:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The large Muslim population in the Gary area will come into play as well... they will vote overwhelmingly for Obama.

8:02 PM  
Blogger jimo said...

Makes me sick, same shit is happening in Ohio as well. Buses from Kentucky arrive daily.

I'm sure the folks from ACORN can get some good tips from our Socialist Alderman Helen Shiller herself right her in Chicago. Pulls this same shit every election year.

America - welcome to Chicago. Keep drinkin' your Kool Aid.

12:52 PM  
Blogger nrn312 said...

350 electoral votes? Please, put down the bong and go to work.

Like I said, Mr. Trader, the market is trying to tell you something. Just go to Intrade and look at the numbers.

And as to Indiana being the least of anybody's problem - you have written that vote fraud is not a problem because your glorious leader will win anyway. You have written that you have no problem with the act of stealing and that you have no problem putting an illegitimate candidate into office, you madam or sir are a fascist.

How does it feel to be the biggest idiot on LaSalle Street?

3:25 PM  
Blogger nrn312 said...

I'm sure the folks from ACORN can get some good tips from our Socialist Alderman Helen Shiller herself right her in Chicago. Pulls this same shit every election year.

If you'd got any proof of Shiller stealing elections, bring it to the attention of the Feds. You just sound like another whiner upside-down on his one bedroom condo.

3:27 PM  
Blogger El Rider said...

Hey nrn,
Do you have anything to actually say? You accused me of being "the biggest idiot on LaSalle St." You have tellinly made no defense of the obsevation that you have some fascist tendencies (involving vote fraud) and go on to accuse me of being an idiot, real Mensa stuff there. In numerous posts on this blog I have noted that I am a CBOT member, the CBOT is still on Jackson Blvd., as it has been since the 19th century.

You didn't understand what I wrote concerning Intrade, did you? Does that make you the biggest idiot in Pine Brook, New Jersey?

As to your abuse of commenter Jimo, as you may have read the feds are all over this town and in case you didn't know I'll help, Shiller's problems were regularly in the local newspapers in the '70s and '80s, Mike Royko has passed away and little of his work is online. People working in that ward see the same things today that Mr. Royko wrote about.

I cannot speak to a commenter's living arrangements (nor, frankly do I want to) but am I feeling some projection here? I think that Jimo may have found his way here from the Uptown Update and you know, I've met a lot of people from Uptown who have been there for a long time and are not upside down in anything.

You have further not addressed the continuing reports of ACORN's involvement in voter registration fraud. This post notes gang involvement and intimidation in the Indiana primary on behalf of my (yes, my) Senator but you have no comment or defense of that, rather you attempt to mock another's living arrangement and attempt to mock the blogger, seemingly without having the general political or financial knowledge to understand what was written. Good luck out there.

10:27 PM  
Blogger nrn312 said...

Shiller's problems were regularly in the local newspapers in the '70s and '80s

Missed this the first time, but Shiller was first elected in 1987. Like I was sayin', how does it feel to be the biggest idiot on LaSalle Street?

3:18 PM  
Blogger El Rider said...

Shiller had been active in Chicago politics for years before she was elected to the City Council, like, oh I don't know - nearly every other Alderman in Chicago history.

How does it feel to be too fucking ignorant to know how politicians gain office?

One other question, what the fuck is wrong with you?

4:40 PM  

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